In this episode of Dinner Ladies Save the World, Sharon Friel and Helen Sullivan speak about consumptagenic systems, COVID-19, and climate change.

Professor Helen Sullivan is Director of ANU Crawford School of Public Policy. She has published widely on public policy, public governance and public service reform, and in 2013 established the Melbourne School of Government.

Professor Sharon Friel is Director of the Menzies Centre for Health Governance at ANU School of Regulation and Global Governance (RegNet).

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