International relations, National security | Australia, Asia, Southeast Asia, The World

27 October 2018

On the fifth (but not final!) special episode brought to you from the Women in National Security Conference, we hear from Nicole Renvert and Huong Le Thu about the future of the Indo-Pacific region.

Hosted by the ANU National Security College, the Women in National Security Conference is a forum on the participation of women in Australia’s future national security policy and practice – and the National Security Podcast is here to bring you the highlights.

On this fifth episode of the series, Chris Farnham hears from Nicole Renvert about Germany’s ties to the Indo-Pacific, catches up with participants on the final day of the conference, and chats to Huong Le Thu about how Southeast Asia views the Quadrilateral Security Dialogue. This episode is hosted by Gabrielle Kneipp. Listen here:

Wait! You thought this was the end, but we’re not quite done. One of the real highlights of the conference was ‘Security through community: Wujal Wujal security songlines’. The panel featured Eileen Deemal-Hall and Tim Rutherford, and showcased an Indigenous community initiative to build human security by partnering with the local Army unit in Far North Queensland. We were so blown away by it that we got them into the studio to tell Jacinta Carroll and Jay Caldwell their amazing story of collaboration, friendship – and national security. Keep an ear out for it on Monday 29 October, and subscribe by iTunes to get it on your devices as soon as it’s released.

Dr Huong Le Thu is a Senior Analyst in the Defence and Strategy Program of the Australian Strategic Policy Institute (ASPI).

Dr Nicole Renvert is an Associate Fellow at the German Council on Foreign Relations (DGAP). She is a political scientist and historian with a special focus on foreign and security policy and the analysis of think tanks, foundations, and Non-Governmental Institutions.

Chris Farnham is the presenter of the National Security Podcast. He joined the National Security College in June 2015 as Policy and Events Officer. His career focus has been on geopolitics with experience working in and out of China for a number of years as well as operating in Australia and Southeast Asia.

Gabrielle Kneipp is Executive Officer at the National Security College. She is currently on secondment from the Department of the Prime Minister and Cabinet and studying a Bachelor of Arts in International Studies/Communication in Journalism.

We’d love to hear your feedback for this podcast series! Send in your questions, comments, or suggestions for future episodes to You can also Tweet us @APPSPolicyForum or find us on Facebook.

This episode of the National Security Podcast was produced and edited by Edwina Landale. It was written by Gabrielle Kneipp and Edwina Landale.

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